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by GPC
(Hauppauge NY)

The author states that it is our problem, we caused stray cats or feral, which I cannot believe that society has gotten so twisted with this politically correct nonsense that we are even now told to say feral instead of the word stray, as if the cats know the difference, duh, second point, it is not, the cats fault, but the lazy owners who let their own cats wander the neighborhood, claiming that it is the proper way to care for cats that they need to find their own food.

What these cats do is defecate in our yards, under our cars, urinate in our bushes, bring fleas and other insects to our yards...

I love all animals, that are cared for, and I will not support my neighbors in this manner, so I put out poisons, and repellents.

It is not fair to your neighbors that they should have to fight for their homes in this manner.

GPC

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Jul 29, 2009
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An Animal Lover? I Think Not!
by: Jo Singer

Anyone that professes to love animals and would MURDER them is rather oxymoronic, as far as I am concerned. Also someone claiming to love cats would know, as many folks correctly pointed out, that there is a huge difference between "stray" cats and "feral" cats.

If folks would take the time and care for their cats, and let them outdoors to roam, they would neuter/spay them, to begin with.

It is just totally beyond my comprehension how anyone that loves animals could kill them. The manner in which these cats are executed is beyond comprehension. These cats are not at blame, it is the folks who own them who are the responsible ones. Why not report them for abandoning their pets?

The comments for this article are very passionate animal lovers, and have taken the responsibility that we, as humans, have been charged with, and that is to protect them. You are, in my opinion, no different than the cat killers in the recent news headlines in New York and Florida.

I fervently hope that someone reports you for violating the law, as Michael so correctly mentions.

Jul 28, 2009
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Manage Not Murder
by: Everycat

Time and time again it has been proven worldwide that killing feral and stray cats does nothing to reduce their numbers. It has been proven that killing causes a vacuum effect, which means that as soon as numbers in feral cat colonies are down, new cats move in to fill the vacancies.

The only method of controlling the number of feral cats is TNRM (Trap, Neuter, Return, Manage) You seem so keen to do something about what you see as a problem - how about doing something that is effective and humane. What you say you do now is neither effective, humane or intelligent.

How about enlisting the help of those in your neighbourhood too? Many people may be willing to help you organise effective and humane management of a colony of ferals or strays.

You also need to be clear about what is a feral and what is a stray cat./ Stray cats have once been owned and handled by humans - they may have been dumped, got lost or run away from their original cared for living situation.

Stray cats can be rehomed responsibly. Feral adult cats can be relocated responsibly to form new colonies or returned to existing ones once sterilised. Feral kittens, if trapped before the age of about 4 months can be tamed with care, then rehomed as house cats to responsible new owners.

Feral cats are the offspring of once stray cats. Feral cats have never been owned or handled by humans. They can be effectively cared for by colony caretakers, who provide daily food and any preventative medications the cats may need, such as wormers and flea treatments. They also trap any new cats and get them spayed/neutered so there won't be any more kittens. This is called managing.

What you say you do, is murder.

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Jul 28, 2009
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Submitted by: Everycat

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Time and time again it has been proven worldwide that killing feral and stray cats does nothing to reduce their numbers. It has been proven that killing causes a vacuum effect, which means that as soon as numbers in feral cat colonies are down, new cats move in to fill the vacancies. The only method of controlling the number of feral cats is TNRM (Trap, Neuter, Return, Manage) You seem so keen to do something about what you see as a problem - how about doing something that is effective and humane. What you say you do now is neither effective, humane or intelligent. How about enlisting the help of those in your neighbourhood too? Many people may be willing to help you organise effective and humane management of a colony of ferals or strays. You also need to be clear about what is a feral and what is a stray cat./ Stray cats have once been owned and handled by humans - they may have been dumped, got lost or run away from their original cared for living situation. Stray cats can be rehomed responsibly. Feral adult cats can be relocated responsibly to form new colonies or returned to existing ones once sterilised. Feral kittens, if trapped before the age of about 4 months can be tamed with care, then rehomed as house cats to responsible new owners. Feral cats are the offspring of once stray cats. Feral cats have never been owned or handled by humans. They can be effectively cared for by colony caretakers, who provide daily food and any preventative medications the cats may need, such as wormers and flea treatments. They also trap any new cats and get them spayed/neutered so there won't be any more kittens. This is called managing. What you say you do, is murder.

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Jul 28, 2009
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you stink
by: kathy

how can you say you love all animals and then want to inflict such a cruel death on them as poisoning them you are such a hypocrite just like the hunters who claim they are such conservationists so they can go out and kill more animals when we have poor animals giving up their lives in such deplorable places as factory farms every day i once had a neighbor who let their cat go because they said there were plenty of mice and rabbits for him to eat then came and complained to me that the animals i put food out for were getting into his garbage because he was too lazy to take it to the dumpster (it was his own cat) i fed this cat and then i had to move so i don't know what happened to him, he certainly wasn't wild and it certainly wasn't his fault a few months later the same people called me for a kitten!!!! NO WAY WOULD I EVEN CONSIDER IT people like you should be arrested or forced to live on the street like the poor animals that are forced into cruel living i personally think you are sick and should get help take it up with the owners of these poor animals not them

Jul 28, 2009
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Help, not hurt!
by: Susan

You must be filled with great pain to inflict such hatred on helpless animals. Why don't you use your energy into helping these animals instead of causing them great pain & suffering?

They need a human to intervene - why don't you be that person that helps them instead of kills them? Remember, what goes around, comes around. See Alley Cat Allies for resources (Neighborhood Cat Helpers is a huge TNR resource in NY): http//www.alleycat.org

"I hold that the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man" M. Gandhi (1869-1948)

Jul 28, 2009
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Are you mad?
by: Barbara

You claim to love all animals that are cared for, well you should be loving the ones who are uncared for, they need help and compassion not hatred and poison. No, it isn't fair to the neighbours to allow a cat to stray and make a nuisance of itself but that is down to the ignorance of the human owner and not the cat. Cats have an instinct to survive, the same as you do and I do, so how could they not go into other people's yards searching for food and warmth. You're not going to come to much harm from having fleas in your yard, they're hardly going to sit there in wait for you to pass by and then jump on you. I think you're rather paranoid to be honest.
Strays are exactly that, cats straying or roaming because they are not properly looked after. Feral cats are something altogether different, they are cats that have been domestic pets and abandoned and have gone wild, or they are the generations of kittens born of those cats.
All cats are our responsibility, be they our own household cats, hungry roaming cats or a colony of feral cats. We are in the dominant position and it is for us to provide care and compassion to all needy animals.
It is the owners you should be taking issue with not the victims in this, which are the cats.
It would be so easy to forward your comment to the authorities who would take a very dim view of your bragging about poisoning animals which are the property of your neighbours.
Get a life and get a bit of compassion. Maybe you'll come back as a cat and be neglected, then you'll see just what a miserable life some cats have.

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Jul 28, 2009
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Submitted by: Barbara

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You claim to love all animals that are cared for, well you should be loving the ones who are uncared for, they need help and compassion not hatred and poison. No, it isn't fair to the neighbours to allow a cat to stray and make a nuisance of itself but that is down to the ignorance of the human owner and not the cat. Cats have an instinct to survive, the same as you do and I do, so how could they not go into other people's yards searching for food and warmth. You're not going to come to much harm from having fleas in your yard, they're hardly going to sit there in wait for you to pass by and then jump on you. I think you're rather paranoid to be honest. Strays are exactly that, cats straying or roaming because they are not properly looked after. Feral cats are something altogether different, they are cats that have been domestic pets and abandoned and have gone wild, or they are the generations of kittens born of those cats. All cats are our responsibility, be they our own household cats, hungry roaming cats or a colony of feral cats. We are in the dominant position and it is for us to provide care and compassion to all needy animals. It is the owners you should be taking issue with not the victims in this, which are the cats. It would be so easy to forward your comment to the authorities who would take a very dim view of your bragging about poisoning animals which are the property of your neighbours. Get a life and get a bit of compassion. Maybe you'll come back as a cat and be neglected, then you'll see just what a miserable life some cats have.

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Jul 28, 2009
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For God's sake have a heart !
by: Ruth

This is so sad. You can't just love animals that are cared for, if you love animals you should love them all. It's not the poor cats' faults they are either feral or stray, it's the fault of the people who abandoned them in the first place! Please don't redirect your aggression onto the innocent animals, don't forget 'there but for the grace of God go I'. If you were a tramp living rough, because you'd hit bad times, you wouldn't like to be considered a nuisance and poisoned, would you?
Have a heart, if you can't find an ounce of compassion in you, then call animal welfare !
And when you go to bed tonight count your blessings for a roof over your head, food, and all the things we have by 'human rights'

Jul 28, 2009
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you have no heart
by: Anonymous

you love all animals? these cats are just trying to survive on their own and you kill them!! you have no right to kill them...who are you to judge. why don't you talk to the owners...I think you are very cruel..

Jul 28, 2009
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Sad
by: Niteuk

Humans are the most destructive animals on the planet and you are in the top few. All have the right to life including feral or wild. Most lived free in the Americas until invaded by the so called human element who arrived and desecrated their habitat. Why not remove the one human with a problem and leave the many feral cats to live in peace.

Jul 28, 2009
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Animal lover??
by: Margaret McCann

Do you watch these poor animals die when you have poisoned them? I bet YOU would like to die in your sleep painlessly.

Margaret.

Jul 28, 2009
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My response to submission
by: Michael

Hi, thanks for your submission as it gives me the opportunity to respond.

Firstly, it is not a case of political correctness to describe the feral cat problem as ours. It is a simple issue of fact that we need to remind ourselves of. You need reminding by the look of it but you do little to change your ways.

Secondly, there is a difference between feral and stray cats. Feral are wild cats, in effect, while strays might be a domestic cats that have strayed and are not, therefore, wild.

Thirdly, in New York state, what you are doing (putting out poisons to deliberately hurt stray domestic cats) is probably a felony under N.Y. AGRIC. & MKTS. LAW § 353-a (2008).

Aggravated cruelty to animals.
1. A person is guilty of aggravated cruelty to animals when, with no justifiable purpose, he or she intentionally kills or intentionally causes serious physical injury to a companion animal with aggravated cruelty. For purposes of this section, "aggravated cruelty" shall mean conduct which:
(i) is intended to cause extreme physical pain; or
(ii) is done or carried out in an especially depraved or sadistic manner.

What you should do it to talk to the neighbours who are allegedly acting irresponsibly and ask experts to TNR true feral cats. I also believe that what you assume is acceptable is, in fact, thoughtless and reckless cruelty.

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Jul 28, 2009
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Submitted by: Michael

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Hi, thanks for your submission as it gives me the opportunity to respond. Firstly, it is not a case of political correctness to describe the feral cat problem as ours. It is a simple issue of fact that we need to remind ourselves of. You need reminding by the look of it but you do little to change your ways. Secondly, there is a difference between feral and stray cats. Feral are wild cats, in effect, while strays might be a domestic cats that have strayed and are not, therefore, wild. Thirdly, in New York state, what you are doing (putting out poisons to deliberately hurt stray domestic cats) is probably a felony under N.Y. AGRIC. & MKTS. LAW § 353-a (2008). Aggravated cruelty to animals. 1. A person is guilty of aggravated cruelty to animals when, with no justifiable purpose, he or she intentionally kills or intentionally causes serious physical injury to a companion animal with aggravated cruelty. For purposes of this section, "aggravated cruelty" shall mean conduct which: (i) is intended to cause extreme physical pain; or (ii) is done or carried out in an especially depraved or sadistic manner. What you should do it to talk to the neighbours who are allegedly acting irresponsibly and ask experts to TNR true feral cats. I also believe that what you assume is acceptable is, in fact, thoughtless and reckless cruelty.

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